This time it was for Officer Shawn Schneider
Police Officer Dies - Schneider shot 11 days ago in domestic dispute Lake City
Updated: Saturday, 31 Dec 2011, 4:16 PM CST
Published : Friday, 30 Dec 2011, 10:52 PM CST
Published : Friday, 30 Dec 2011, 10:52 PM CST
by ASSOCIATED PRESS
A statement from Mayo says Officer Shawn Schneider died Friday evening in
. St. Marys Hospital
Schneider's family thanked everyone "for their overwhelming support and well wishes during this difficult time."
A procession of law enforcement vehicles has escorted the body of slain police Officer Shawn Schneider back to
Saturday. Lake City
The Post-Bulletin reports about 15 police vehicles -- their emergency lights flashing -- escorted Schneider's body along U.S. Highway 63 to
on Saturday morning. Lake City
A friend of Schneider's, Doug Wallerich, tells the newspaper that the officer's death is "hitting a lot of hearts."
Schneider had been in critical condition since he was shot Dec. 19. Authorities say 25-year-old Alan Sylte Jr. of
, shot Schneider in the head, then took his own life. Hager City, Wis.
A 17-year-old girl who escaped from the house told police she had broken up with Sylte the previous week.
A Wisconsin National Guard spokeswoman says Sylte was an
war veteran who was in the process of being discharged for failing to report to duty. Iraq
Schneider leaves a wife and three young children. Funeral arrangements are pending.
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The number of Officers murdered in the line of duty has been increasing steadily over the last 3 years.
Officers killed in 2011
Before I go any further with this blog let me make clear. I am not second guessing, judging or Monday morning quarterbacking Officer Schneider or any other fallen Officer.
Cops getting killed pisses me off, when I’m pissed I tend to rant on my blog. That’s what this is.
So why are more cops getting killed?
I believe there are several reasons for this increase.
- Some reasons include:
- Officers missing pre-attack indicators
- Officers putting themselves on subject’s victim profile
- Fear of litigation
- Officers starting too low on the force continuum
- Officers using ineffective strategies / techniques
- Never been in a fight
- Never played a contact sport
- Over reliance on taser
- Over reliance on “Officer Presence” – The badge will protect me
- Increased societal acceptance of violence against Law Enforcement
I’m sure there are several others. All worthy of a blog of their own
Today let’s focus on
Officers starting too low on the force continuum
Officers using ineffective strategies / techniques
And let me hit the disclaimer again. I am not second guessing the Officer in the following article. I just want use the situation she was in to make some points.
Man accused of choking
police officer Coon Rapids
By Sarah Horner
Updated: 12/30/2011 11:11:11 PM CST
Anoka man was charged Friday with choking a police officer outside a Wal-Mart in the night before. Coon Rapids
When Johnson asked the man to identify himself, he allegedly refused and swore at her.
He then put his hands around her neck and shoved her against her squad car, Hattstrom said.
"He was squeezing pretty hard," Hattstrom said. "She was having difficulty breathing."
[JUSTIFIABLE USE OF LETHAL FORCE]
Two witnesses intervened, and Ilstrup was shocked with a Taser, according to a criminal complaint filed against him in Anoka County District Court.
He then was put in the back of a squad car, where he reportedly continued swearing and started kicking at the car windows.
Johnson was treated for bruising at
Mercy Hospital in but suffered no other injuries, Hattstrom said. She was not available for comment Friday. Coon Rapids
Ilstrup, who was convicted of disorderly conduct earlier this year, faces a fourth-degree assault charge in the
incident. Coon Rapids
What can we learn from this incident?
“Be nice until it’s time to not be nice”
ASK – TELL – MAKE
When someone refuses a lawful order they need to be placed into control.
It’s hard to choke someone when you are cuffed behind your back.
When someone who has refused a lawful order, and is exhibiting extreme / emotional behaviors - yelling, swearing puts his hands around your throat that is a lethal force situation.
Don’t try some half assed PPCT soft hands control. You don’t have the time and it’s not going to work. END THE THREAT!
Why are choke holds at lethal force level on most law enforcement use of force continuums?
Because of potential to cause death!
If cops can only use “lateral vascular neck restraints” (P.C. for choke hold) when lethal force is justified, a criminal trying to choke you justifies USE OF LETHAL FORCE.
Watch this video of my man Judo Gene Lebell
When he decides to put it on, watch how fast the kid goes out.
Notice how long the kid stays out.
You can’t let subjects touch your neck.
Mentally / psychologically it is hard to jump from talking to high levels of force. Most people need to work them selves up to violence.
1) That work up has definite recognizable “tells”. Learn to recognize them and actively watch for them.
2) Officers need to start subject interactions (Presence / Verbal skills) assuming high levels of force will be necessary and violence is immanent. There are no “routine calls”. You don’t want to get stuck in the observe – orient loop and try to play catch up as you are taking damage. Much better to be surprised / happy you didn’t need to use force than the other way around.
Same goes for physical tactics. It is better to start at a high level and ease up as control is gained as opposed to start at low levels, fail to control, take damage, then use greater levels of force than would have been necessary if control had been gained quickly.
END CONFRONTATIONS QUICKLY!
The longer the fight goes on the higher the chances of both Officer and subject being injured.
Over in 3
OK rant over. I hope I gave you some things to think about
Train hard, Train Smart, Be safe – It might just save your life
I'm sorry for the loss of Officer Schneider.ReplyDelete
Excellent post, with a lot of good points. Going hand-in-hand with too little force, too late and using ineffective strategies is the concept of presumed compliance.
Especially for those of working in so-called "nice neighborhoods" it's easy to get so used to the normal people who maybe will bluster, but will comply that we expect compliance and get shocked when we don't get it. That expectation of compliance leads some officers to start with too low a presence or presentation. You can start friendly, but there should never be a doubt who's in charge. it doesn't take much -- as I'm currently being reminded since I'm training a rookie, but you have to be in charge when you're on that scene.
Another factor in using ineffective techniques or tactics links to presumed compliance. We use what worked in the past, and often get stuck when it doesn't work. I remember an incident where there I watched a partner try the same leg sleep repeatedly, and ineffectively. Why'd he keep doing it? 'Cause it had previously worked for him. We have to train to adjust and adapt our techniques when they fail.
Yeah -- definitely stuff worth entries of their own.
This why I treat all interactions with police as a potintial life threatning situation myself.ReplyDelete