Wednesday, February 8, 2012

Minnesota Nice




WALKER, Minn. — A northern Minnesota man is charged with fatally stabbing another man after an argument at a party last weekend.

Cass County prosecutors charged 23-year-old Frank Jesse LaRose of Longville with second-degree murder.

According to the complaint, LaRose became agitated during a party and started arguing with 31-year-old James Elmberg of Walker.

A witness says LaRose approached Elmberg as if to hug him but actually stabbed him in the chest. Another witness saw LaRose carrying two knives across the room.

Officers recovered two knives from the kitchen sink. One blade appeared to have blood on it.

Elmberg died at Crosby Hospital. LaRose caught a ride and was later arrested at a nearby home.

Bail for LaRose is set at $500,000. He does not have an attorney yet and remains in jail.

Here is a real world example of using social skills for asocial violence

It can sound like:

Hey man you got a light?

What time is it?

How do I get to here on this map?

This both splits the victim’s attention and gives the predator a socially acceptable pretense to close distance.

LaRose is arguing with Elmberg.  They are pissed at each other.  Awe, I’m sorry man come here and give me a hug.

Do you train against this type of attack - grab and stab / hand shake shank?
Or do you train from distances and attacks that work best for the defenses you already know?
"Like most beginners you stabbed me wrong..."


MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) – A 27-year-old man has been accused of shooting the bouncer of a Minneapolis club after he was kicked out for disruptive behavior.

James David Wren of Minneapolis was charged with second-degree attempted murder and prohibited person in possession of a firearm, which are both felonies.

According to the criminal complaint, on Jan. 1, 2012, Wren was kicked out of the Sound Bar by a bouncer. Wren then allegedly made threatening gestures to the security.

Later, at 3:30 a.m., the bouncer left work in his vehicle. While driving, a large SUV pulled up alongside him. Inside, the bouncer told police there were at least four people looking at him.

Then, the SUV backed up and the bouncer realized he was shot. He then fled the scene and was able to stop police officers.

It was later determined that a bullet entered his body through his right shoulder and travelled through his chest cavity, where it lodged itself in his lower left chest cavity. The bullet was removed in surgery.

A police investigation was able to identify the owner of the SUV. In an interview, the owner said Wren told him to follow the bouncer’s vehicle and that Wren fired one shot at the vehicle, the complaint said.

If convicted, Wren could face up to 20 years in prison.

What can we take from this?
I don’t have any Borne Identity commando bullet proof driving tips to offer.

We can take from this: 
Leave a face saving way out for everybody
            “Hey, thank you for not putting up a fight.  I know you could have given me a rough time if you chose to”
            It doesn’t cost you any thing.  It saves face for the person you arrested / escorted out.  And has a secondary effect of making him think  - Holy shit I was fighting as hard as I could and this guy thinks I wasn’t doing anything!  I’d hate to see what this guy does when he thinks he is in a real fight.

It isn’t over until it is over.  If face is lost it has to be regained somehow.  Maybe that means finding an easier target – girlfriend or kids when he gets home.  Maybe that means using asocial skills (drive by) for social reasons (status in his group)

The monkey brain can’t distinguish between humiliation and death.  If you have taken away someone’s pride away be extra vigilant because they me be coming back for it.


Train hard, train smart, be safe

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